Have you actually tried looking for a .38/.357 lever gun? Custom craftsmanship applied to streamlined CNC manufacturing processes. I really do want a .357 levergunbut Im perfectly confident in my .30-30. Turns out that my relatively new Ford pickup has plenty of room for a lever gun too. You want a 357 Max rifle, best to go to MGM with Encore barrel, with Bellm's chambering. The round barrel is just 17.4 inches, threaded for a suppressor and features a 1:16 rate of twist. Later, Dan Wesson Firearms made double-action revolvers, and Thompson/Center offered single-shot Contender pistol barrels. A heavily worn gun that had been drilled vertically thru the buttstock, the barrel, magazine tube and lag-bolted across beams in the ceiling of some bar in northern Arizona. Put the .357 Maximum in a rifle or a single-shot pistol, and you see a new picture of this cartridge. 20170926..35Cal.190gr.Fury.Jug.Test - Copy1.jpg, https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2t-barrel-length-muzzle-velocity-and-accuracy/, https://www.speer-ammo.com/products/bullets/rifle-bullets/hot-cor-rifle-bullet/2435, https://matchgrademachine.com/encore-contender-357-magnum-maximum-load-development-results/, http://hawkbullets.com/bullet-selection.html, https://cuttingedgebullets.com/shop/ets?caliber=43, http://www.accuratepowder.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/WPHandloading-Guide-7.0-Web-REV.pdf. If I didnt have to deal with CAs onerous gun registration laws, Id otherwise be glad to offer someone one of my Glock/AR sets for a .357 Mag revolver + rifle. It shoots pretty good. At least try it with used reloading equipment, one or or two sets of dies. The evidently know a 22 rifle or shotgun by sight. The amount of money, time and effort and the increased lever throw places a 357 Maximum lever gun so far down my list that it will never happen for me. Cheap factory 158gr LRN is subsonic and stupid quiet for those that are complete hereticslike meand suppress their levers. I watched him shoot an elk at about 70 yards once behind the shoulder and one through and had complete penetration on both, elk went 20 yards. NEVER EXCEED MAXIMUM LOADS: Be Alert: Publisher cannot be responsible for . : .357" (except where otherwise specified in remarks). Factory triggers dont come much, if any, better than the k frames., I have to agree. This rifle will be used for S. Michigan Deer so I'm primarily looking for favorite powder and pet loads. In the case of multiple buyers for one item, customers will be given 24 hours to complete a transaction, after which firearms will be made available to the next buyer. This is especially true if you plan to hunt or compete in silhouette competitions as lighter bullets don't maintain enough energy at longer ranges. Bfh_auto Member Joined: Feb 23, 2016 Messages: 6,502 In single shot rifles or pistols, I would choose the max. This round is about the same thing as a 357 Max except for bore diameter. Reloading is a good alternative if you can get the supplies, but from what I read things like primers are becoming harder to find as well. The only guy I knew who shot 357 Max had a Ruger SBH and a Marlin lever gun re-chambered for the Max cartridge. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:44 pm, Post The three taped holes were 20.0 gr. There was enough space there for a scabbard with a .30-30 in it. But its the old Supply and demand scenario. If you get one and a couple of SAA revolvers, youre almost ready for cowboy action shooting. by AJMD429 Tue Jul 24, 2012 10:32 pm, Post A couple of decades ago, I had a New England, top-break, single-shot rifle chambered in .357 maximum with naught but iron sights. Kahlil, was the Marlin 94 you just got back from the Repair shop made between 2007 and 2012-2015? Personally I like Blue Dot, and Bullseye for plinking rounds. Its cheaper than a lot of other calibers to shoot with minimal felt recoil. Caliber: .357 MAG/ .38 Special Capacity: 10+1 Barrel Length: 18 Barrel Type: Octagon Blued Steel Rate of Twist: 1:16 Overall Length: 35.5 Receiver Material: CaseHardened Steel Rear Sight: Buckhorn Front Sight: Blade Stock Material: Walnut Weight: 7.4 lbs. The problem with rebarreling a Ruger No 1 or 3 is not the round, it it locating a gunsmith capable of dealing with a Ruger single shot action. Being a straight walled cartridge, its a snap. Hodgdon starting load for the 140 gr. Accepted Payment Methods: Returns: 3 Days Lil Gun starting at 26 grains and worked up to as much as 30 grains gives top velocities in 24 barrels and good velocities in shorter barrels. I think a lot of it is people who do not come from a hunting background and just want to look cool. Ed Palumbo from Tualatin, OR on July 21, 2015: I had the opportunity to fire a colleague's .357 Max "Contender" and he worked with my .41 Magnum. Not going to get activated by accident, and potentially useful now and then. Also have a stainless Rossi in .45 Colt. 44 Mag is much more forgiving. Seldom has any new gun/ new cartridge combination failed so quickly.Ruger's long-framed Blackhawk was first to market in two barrel lengths. Goes to show I learn something new every day. Remington and Ruger eventually . I was looking for a 357 trapper at Dons gun in Indy in the early 90s. Ive never understood the fascination with Black Rifles. Youll see how relevant lever guns are next time the bolsheviks are in the white house. Look around on the internet. including a .40 S&W Barrel (view pictures). This isn't your grandpa's muzzleloading system. Similar to the Critter You Are Hunting Effect. https://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/gunsmith-review-wild-west-guns-marlin-rescue-project/, Not a .357, but a Rossi lever. Cartridge is a mite better now than 3 years ago, IMO. Full rechamber to .357 MAXimum or .350 Legend for energy levels on par with .300 Savage or moderate .308 Winchester loads and a bonafide 250 yard rifle. Best place to find squirrels in in a deer stand with a 30-06. It appears to be a rimless 357 Maximum. I now have the Ruger gp100-7. Last time I went hunting. One, intended as a super revolver cartridge, failed to make the grade in firearms with cylinders but is a fine performer in other platforms. Buy 357 Maximum Brass Pistol Cases 95pcs Mixed Brass 357 Max: GunBroker is the largest seller of Reloading Supplies Ammunition Reloading All: 974082394. . The 8 grains of unique seem like fairly hot loads out of the rifle. Click the link to go to the Contact page: If you choose to remove the forend, contact me first so you don't lose parts removing the forend! Risking twice that? I bought a used Marlin 94c 357 in June, 2020 for $600, in 98% condition. Also, the Contender comes in longer barrel lengths than the 7.5 and 10.5 inch barrels that Ruger made the Blackhawk with for the .357 Rem. They both have Constitutional carry! I can probably name a couple dozen powders that will work in the .357. Send your barrel or barrel with forend attached for chamber work. Id buy another Henry in a heartbeat, if my gun safe werent replete with levers already. Clearly, these articles (and other ones like this article) hit a receptive ear/eye in the gun buying public and they say Imma get me sumodat! and poof! Just picked up a Marlin 1894C at my local gun store. I was surprised I didnt see any comments about the Henry Big Boy X. I bought this in a .357 mag at BassPro for $800 and it has the side gate for loading. Own Stock. Most of all it looks cool and reminds me of the good old days when guns were all made from steel and wood instead of plastic. Slick set up that kept a rifle close to hand and out of sight. It is a tough call since their chamber work and mine are so, so close to the same. Til inauguration day and beyond, demand will likely increase. When the gun fired, it behaved like all revolvers in that the powder charge in those long chambers burned at a very high temperature. A T/C Contender G2 or Encore makes a lot more since. by stretch Thu Jul 19, 2012 6:47 pm, Post The Alaskan combines tradition wit NO Credit Card Fees Like the Other Guys!! The .35 Remington case is basically a .308 Winchester (but slightly narrower and shorter) with a .358" diameter bullet stuffed into it. 2/ there are other living constraints and issues that make reloading not an option at this time. I wonder how the rimless version of the .357 Maximumthe .350 Legendwill fare. If its an American classic you want, the Winchester Model 1892 Carbine is about as classic as it gets. There are even night sights available from aftermarket suppliers. We manufacture Partition, AccuBond, E-Tip, Ballistic Tip, Custom Competition and much more. That stands for International Handgun Metallic Silhouette Association. The 125-grain loads have not quite as much muzzle energy as NATO's standard infantry rifle round, the 5.56x45mm. Long guns get in the way. The most Fun guns I own. If you want a lever gun for your wall and occasional shooting, good luck doing better. 357 Magnum Rifle M.V. Get your barrels customized early for next season! rounds border on simply dumb when the .357 Maximum is so much more accurate and easier to shoot accurately with its moderate recoil. In short order, there was a Ruger Blackhawk Maximum and ammo to go with it.Ruger was not the only party on the Maximum bandwagon. Most were returned to the factory and their purchase price refunded. This year, H&R announced an expansion of its AR-15 lineup, bringing additional "retro" models to the market, including a 9 mm Luger-chambered Colt SMG clone, an M16A2-styled rifle and the carbine-size 723. Wow, so many new posts on the 357 Mag rifles. No Tags. This means you have the option to read your magazine on most popular phones and tablets. A max charge of 27.0 grains posted roughly 1,875 fps with the Speer 180-grain .35 Remington bullet and shot under 1 MOA in my 14-inch Contender. Since this is a single-shot firearm, there is no potential for flame cutting, and the true potential of this cartridge is realized. im looking to trade for a 357 lever action.. Good luck.hope you brought your best marbles.. bullets in barrels around 20. JM all day but damn are they pricey if you can find them at all. All in all the .357 may be the best TEOTWAWKI round going. . If you didn't know much about this caliber before, hopefully this article has given you some insight into why it is such a great cartridge. While the cartridge produces around 1200 ft/lbs of energy, which is more than a .44 Magnum, it also has less recoil. In addition to the 180-grain bullet, Speer makes a 220-grain FN that will exceed 1,500 fps in a 14-inch Contender, and Hornady and Sierra both make 200-grain RN versions that should reach 1,600 to 1,650 fps. Jan 23, 2014. Yeah, that .357 lever gun is so irrelevant you cant find one anywhere. Check the charts out at the bottom of the page. Yeah both pretty awesome. Loads for .357 Maximum: (Note: These are near maximum loads, you should use 10% less to start.) Sorry, there are no results in your area. I have not seen the .357 atomic but know of the .375 atomic-it is a i.4 in. That it would also make a good field cartridge for hunting small and medium game is obvious. I have one, and they are very nice, but spendy, and very hard to come by. Frankly the quality was sinking fast before Remington bought them out, but they went straight off the cliff when they fired all the Marlin workers and took their worn out tooling and put their own Remington workers (with no experience building lever guns) on them. I agree. The Henry Single Shot is one VERY nice little rifle! Everybody wanted to get their hands on my lever-action .30-30, and nobody who shot it was disappointed. by Old Ironsights Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:54 pm, Post You can also put ketchup on a hot dog, but you shouldnt. Remington is the only manufacturer of brass for this caliber, but Hornady, Speer, Sierra, Remington, Winchester, and several other manufacturers make bullets that work well for the cartridge. Discussion forums for GunBroker.com users. There were some factory chambered in .357 Remington Maximum over 20 guage. L ess than 50 rounds fired through the barrel. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Expecting it back today via UPS, cant wait to put some rounds in it this week. Joseph Von Benedikt is with Jorge Spat to learn all about it. I had just enough time to look at a Winchester 92 in .357(did not like the large loop lever) and an italian copy of the 73. Made in 1983, serial 600-02396 has a 10.5-inch barrel, blade front sight, adjustable rear sight, transfer bar and wood grips. It's my personal opinion that the flame cutting on the revolvers chambered in this cartridge gave it a bad rep. by AJMD429 Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:09 pm, Post I have been wanting one for years now and always seem to miss the boat as they sell out quickly. This caliber in both the bottle neck and straight wall was a popular "high velocity" for it's day buffalo caliber. I have not seen a 357 max levergun but, I have a Marlin 336 that is chambered in 375 Supermag. Of course, I dont carry it on a single point like the muh AR crowd does. Our public range requires that spent brass be picked up. 2023 The Arena Media Brands, LLC and respective content providers on this website. The .357 Maximum was initially chambered in the Ruger Blackhawk in 1983 and was for a time adopted by other handgun manufactures. Past 20, pressure drops off and so do velocities. The 357 max is all that plus a bit of more power available. No one currently makes guns chambered in the cartridge.Looking back on the whole incident is very interesting, and there is much to be learned. Rechambering to bottle neck cartridges with additional for handling and converting extractor for rimless cases, from $205. I know its not the answer you want, but it gets you to the same place. I still have a stash of Hornady 180 grain SSP's for it. of rifles attached to horn or pommel and carried in a shuck of some sort. Yes I had one.. perry42 Nov 23, 2018 #12 by elmo123 Fri Aug 10, 2012 10:11 pm, Post The conversion was not troublesome at all other than a rebarrel and chamber job , it feeds with no modifications whatever needed. has the energy and accuracy needed for 200 meter silhouette shooting. I just picked up a Ruger #1 CHP 357mag that will be going to the gun smyth next week to have the chamber stretched to da Max. Nice single shot rifle. They were hell bent on making me reload. The 1873 Deluxe Sporting is that classic rifle, dressed to the nines with a color-case hardened finish and checkered pistol grip. Winchester Model 1873. Among their improvements was a revision to the receiver for their model of 1894. No, the article actually shows period photos of guys wearing cross slings with clips on the end that attached to the rifle, so they could let it dangle by their legs. The Speer Hot Cor 180 soft point shoots lights out and velocities are over 2200 fps. The 357 Magnum is a highly regarded round for hunting and self-defense. Its sad that this is a bonus, but for many Americans it is exactly that. .357 Magnum Rifle (Hodgdon Data) reloading data with 102 loads. It is a smaller diameter bullet with a high velocity, which makes it penetrate well during hunting. They only made these two years. I love Lever action rifles, and own Rossis, Savage 99s, Winchesters , ( 92 and 94s), Marlins, and Henrys, in 357 magnum and 44 Rem Mag. by BAGTIC Mon Aug 13, 2012 5:14 pm, Powered by phpBB Forum Software phpBB Limited. The Gun That Won The West. Caint answer Ur ? I've searched the internet without finding definitive answers. So for me, the perfect single-caliber combo would be .357 Mag wheelgun at the hip holster, and lever gun such as one of those shown in the article above. The.357 Maximum, formally known as the.357 Remington Maximum or the.357 Max, is a super magnum handgun cartridge originally developed by Elgin Gates as the wildcat.357 SuperMag. Thats exactly the sort of info i was looking for. 38 special. The Jelly Head Maximum utilizes an extended taper and fluted ports to tighten patterns up to 20 perc OUR STOCK NUMBER:13211 CONDITION: NEW IN THE BOX MAKE/MODEL: ROSSI..R-92 ACTION: LEVER RIFLE CALIBER: .357 MAGNUM/.38 SPECIAL BARREL: 20" CAPACITY: 12+1 FURNITURE: DARK BRAZILIA Uberti 1873 Cattleman II NM Steel 7 1/2" .357 Mag with Retractable firing pin (356550) This pistol is brand new in the box. Several years back I wanted a light weight all weather stainless steel single shot rifle chambered in 357 magnum, and the Rossi was the answer. someguy2800, Jul 12, 2019 #7 Eagle 17 and Bfh_auto like this. Maybe people will wake up and smell the coffee. Lube is easily made from beeswax and chassis grease. No joke. For the more meticulous shooters and those who like to experiment with the widest variety of bullet types. .358" jacketed, .357" jacketed, and cast lead bullets, just ask them to send the barrel to me to chamber for $105 post paid to you, billed separately by me. of AA-1680 give top velocities and energies for shots upwards of 250 yards or more with 180 gr bullets from 24 barrels. Rimmed cases don't play well with stacked magazines like in the 700 Remington. Joe Grine and I spent a day testing it agains the venerable .30-30, and the results astounded us. We do not charge additional fees for credit cards. Thanks for reading! Custom barrels made by the best of the custom TC barrel manufacturers! A World Record Attempt and everyone is out at the range shooting and practicing.